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the fog of warAnd last night, aside from looking at DNA databases, I watched The Fog of War, a documentary-interview-mix with Robert S. McNamara, former US Secretary of Defense, in which he speaks candidly about tactics, strategy, logistics, World War Two, and, of course, Vietnam. Quite good, if sometimes a little lost in aesthetics rather than substance. There are many good quotes and interesting moments (I'll watch it again soon, I'm sure). One of the things that I found striking was that he quite plainly confirms that Kennedy wanted to "get out" of Vietnam (also mentioned in Oliver Stone's JFK), a notion that, as I understand it, was disputed for a long time after the war ended. He also talks about the Cuban Missile crisis, and the fire-bombing campaign over mainland Japan in early 1945, a campaign that wiped out large areas of Japan's major cities and killed thousands of civilians --the fire-bombing of Tokyo alone caused 100,000 civilian casualties (and that was before Hiroshima and Nagasaki), discussing the "mindset of warfare" and tactical and strategic considerations. And the section of Vietnam inevitably made me think of some recent events. Something that I didn't know was that McNamara met, during the 90s, with both Fidel Castro and Leaders of the Vietnamese army that was fighting the US, and how that helped him re-examine the situation in hindsight, knowing the facts as seen from the other side. McNamara says that he basically asked Castro whether he would have recommended that the Soviet Union get into a nuclear war with the US over Cuba, to which Castro answered, more or less, "yes, in fact I did recommend that" clearly disregarding the fact that such a conflict would have also destroyed Cuba itself. (McNamara himself says, and it isn't hard to believe, that nuclear holocaust was avoided because of "luck"). With Vietnam, McNamara talks about the basic misunderstanding between the US and the Vietnamese as to each other's motives--the US was fighting a local war in the context of the larger cold war conflict, while the Vietnamese were fighting (in their view) a civil war for independence, and how this lack of understanding ("empathizing with the enemy"), which had proven in his mind crucial to solving the 1962 crisis, quite probably prolonged the war unnecessarily. Sometimes he refuses to go into more detail, fearing, as he calls it, "controversy." I'd say that what's there already is controversial enough, but it makes me wonder what he isn't saying. Anyway, not self-contained by any means, but a good addition to history books and other documentaries. Recommended. Categories: art.mediaPosted by diego on June 25 2004 at 12:37 PM Comments (please see the comments & trackback policy).
I'm reading "Hegemony or Survival" by Chomsky at the moment, this quote seems relevant regarding the Cuban missile crisis, talking about a conference held in 2002 involving many of those involved in the crisis at the time: 'They were informed that in October 1962 the world was "one word away" from nuclear war. "A guy named Arkhipov saved the world," saif Thomas Blanton of the National Security Archive in Washington, which helped organize the event. He was referring to Vasili Arkhipov, a Soviet submarine officer who blocked an order to fire nuclear armed torpedoes on October 27, at the tesest moment of the crisis, when the submarines were under attack by US destroyers.' Scary stuff... Posted by: Ian Phillips at June 25, 2004 7:24 PMI agree, and my take is that the "one word" during those (nearly) two weeks could have come from a number of places, from both sides (e.g., the US responding to their low altitude recoinnasance flight being shot at, or the Soviets misinterpreting a move by the US navy...). A lot of luck, as McNamara says... Posted by: Diego at June 26, 2004 11:34 AMCopyright © Diego Doval 2002-2007.
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